{"id":11669,"date":"2024-09-16T07:23:53","date_gmt":"2024-09-16T11:23:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/asulf.org\/?p=11669"},"modified":"2024-09-21T08:17:07","modified_gmt":"2024-09-21T12:17:07","slug":"venezuela-c-venezuela-suite","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/asulf.org\/?p=11669","title":{"rendered":"Venezuela c. V\u00e9n\u00e9zu\u00e9la? (suite)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">M. Bernier,&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je suis enti\u00e8rement d&rsquo;accord avec vous pour ce qui est de la petite note au sujet du V\u00e9n\u00e9zu\u00e9la [voir ci-dessous]. Mais, dans ce cas, il y a peut-\u00eatre une petite explication et beaucoup de confusion \u00e0 la d\u00e9fense du Devoir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">J&rsquo;ai fait une bonne partie de ma carri\u00e8re dans les services linguistiques et les services juridiques de l&rsquo;ONU (apr\u00e8s avoir&nbsp;\u00e9t\u00e9 re\u00e7u premier au concours de traduction et de r\u00e9daction fran\u00e7aise de l&rsquo;ONU sur plus de 4500 candidats).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pour ce qui est du nom des \u00c9tats, tous les fonctionnaires de l&rsquo;ONU doivent obligatoirement s&rsquo;en remettre, pour les six langues officielles de l&rsquo;ONU, \u00e0 une liste officielle pr\u00e9par\u00e9e par un quelconque fonctionnaire de l&rsquo;ONU avec chacun des pays concern\u00e9s. La grande majorit\u00e9 ne pr\u00e9sente pas de probl\u00e8mes, mais dans certains cas les autorit\u00e9s de certains pays insistent pour que leur pays soit connu officiellement comme ils en ont d\u00e9cid\u00e9 sans \u00e9gard \u00e0 toutes autres r\u00e8gles linguistiques. Le cas classique est le vaste probl\u00e8me du nouveau nom de l&rsquo;ex-Mac\u00e9doine. C&rsquo;est la version qui doit \u00eatre respect\u00e9e ensuite.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pour ce qui est du fran\u00e7ais, la chose se complique un peu parce que le Quai d&rsquo;Orsay publie (ou publiait) son propre glossaire de noms et de termes internationaux qui devait \u00eatre suivi malgr\u00e9 quelques conflits avec la version officielle de l&rsquo;ONU pour ce qui \u00e9tait de la version fran\u00e7aise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Le r\u00e9sultat est que l&rsquo;ONU \u00e9crit, \u00e0 mon grand regret,&nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Venezuela<\/strong>, sans accent, m\u00eame en fran\u00e7ais:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.un.org\/fr\/about-us\/member-states\">https:\/\/www.un.org\/fr\/about-us\/member-states<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mais, dans les publications officielles de la R\u00e9publique fran\u00e7aise, on \u00e9crit:&nbsp;<strong>V\u00e9n\u00e9zu\u00e9la<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\nhttps:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/jorf\/id\/JORFTEXT000019509867\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Et parfois\u00a0<strong>Venezuela<\/strong> :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca\/tpv2alpha\/alpha-fra.html?lang=fra&amp;i=1&amp;srchtxt=Venezuela&amp;codom2nd_wet=1#resultrecs.\">https:\/\/www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca\/tpv2alpha\/alpha-fra.html?lang=fra&amp;i=1&amp;srchtxt=Venezuela&amp;codom2nd_wet=1#resultrecs.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">En bons Normands, les responsables de TERMIUM nous recommandent &#8230; les deux.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca\/tpv2alpha\/alpha-fra.html?lang=fra&amp;i=1&amp;srchtxt=Venezuela&amp;codom2nd_wet=1#resultrecs\">https:\/\/www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca\/tpv2alpha\/alpha-fra.html?lang=fra&amp;i=1&amp;srchtxt=Venezuela&amp;codom2nd_wet=1#resultrecs<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 vous le d\u00e9bat est lanc\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">J&rsquo;en profite pour vous f\u00e9liciter&nbsp;et vous remercier de votre valeureux travail. Nous&nbsp;vous devons beaucoup.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Andr\u00e9 Sirois<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Avocat aupr\u00e8s de l&rsquo;ONU<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">P.-S. &#8211; Je veux vous dire que je suis absolument en faveur des accents. L&rsquo;exemple que je donnais dans mes cours de formation c&rsquo;\u00e9tait, pour\u00a0montrer l&rsquo;importance des accents sur les majuscules, le titre du R\u00c8GLEMENT\u00a0SUR LE POISSON SAL\u00c9 qui serait autrement le REGLEMENT\u00a0SUR LE POISSON SALE. Et c&rsquo;est avec de tels exemples que je suis arriv\u00e9, en trois ans, \u00e0 faire mettre deux (immenses) accents sur le nom de l&rsquo;A\u00c9ROPORT DE MONTR\u00c9AL, puis, par la suite, sur celui de l&rsquo;A\u00c9ROPORT DE QU\u00c9BEC. Continuons le combat.\u00a0 AS<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">_____________<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mesdames et Messieurs de l&rsquo;Asulf,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je lis, dans la page Actualit\u00e9s (<em>Le Devoir<\/em>), la manchette \u00ab Le Venezuela r\u00e9tablit l\u2019\u00e9lectricit\u00e9\u2026 \u00bb (3 septembre, p. 2). L\u2019entrefilet provient de l\u2019Agence France-Presse.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Normalement, les m\u00e9dias devraient \u00e9crire V\u00e9n\u00e9zu\u00e9la. Avec trois \u00ab \u00e9 \u00bb. C\u2019est la pratique observ\u00e9e pour les toponymes de pays voisins&nbsp;: P\u00e9rou, \u00c9quateur et Br\u00e9sil et aussi d\u2019autres (Nig\u00e9ria, Nouvelle-Z\u00e9lande \u2026). Je note quand m\u00eame que les dictionnaires, sauf exception, ne reconnaissent pas le politonyme accentu\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La graphie sans les accents peut \u00eatre inspir\u00e9e par le nom espagnol ou par l\u2019am\u00e9ricain. Les deux s\u2019\u00e9crivent de la m\u00eame fa\u00e7on. Mais elle ne devrait pas s\u2019imposer aux m\u00e9dias francophones, fran\u00e7ais ou qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois. On ne le fait d\u2019ailleurs pas pour d\u2019autres entit\u00e9s politiques (Or\u00e9gon, N\u00e9braska\u2026).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Le facteur principal \u00e0 consid\u00e9rer est la langue d\u2019arriv\u00e9e. Ici, le fran\u00e7ais. On ne dit pas Crna Gora ou Ell\u00e1da (Mont\u00e9n\u00e9gro ou Gr\u00e8ce). A fortiori, il ne faut pas h\u00e9siter \u00e0 poser les accents qui s\u2019imposent en fran\u00e7ais. Le nom de d\u00e9part des pays doit s\u2019ajuster aux langues d\u2019arriv\u00e9e. En somme, V\u00e9n\u00e9zu\u00e9la en sol qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois et en sol fran\u00e7ais!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Gaston&nbsp;Bernier<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>M. Bernier,&nbsp; Je suis enti\u00e8rement d&rsquo;accord avec vous pour ce qui est de la petite note au sujet du V\u00e9n\u00e9zu\u00e9la [voir ci-dessous]. Mais, dans ce cas, il y a peut-\u00eatre une petite explication et beaucoup de confusion \u00e0 la d\u00e9fense du Devoir. J&rsquo;ai fait une bonne partie de ma carri\u00e8re dans les services linguistiques et&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":12,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":true,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11669","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-non-classe"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Venezuela c. V\u00e9n\u00e9zu\u00e9la? (suite) -<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/asulf.org\/?p=11669\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Venezuela c. V\u00e9n\u00e9zu\u00e9la? 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